• Bayern Munich Manuel Neuer after his team lost their DFB Cup second round match between Holstein Kiel following a penalty shootout. Getty
    Bayern Munich Manuel Neuer after his team lost their DFB Cup second round match between Holstein Kiel following a penalty shootout. Getty
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    Fin Bartels of Holstein Kiel celebrates after winning the shootout at Wunderino Arena. Getty
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    Holstein Kiel's Jannik Dehm celebrates with teammate after their shock DFB Cup win over Bayern. Getty
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    Bayern attacker Thomas Muller during their DFB Cup defeat. Getty
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    Dejected Bayern players after their defeat. EPA
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    Bayern's Serge Gnabry sprints away from Fin Bartels of Holstein Kiel. Getty
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    Bayern Munich's Manuel Neuer after Holstein Kiel's Hauke Wahl scored their second goal. Reuters
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    Holstein Kiel celebrate after winning the penalty shootout. Getty
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    Kiel's players celebrate after beating Bayern Munich. AP
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    Bayern's Thomas Muller. Getty
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    Bayern Munich manager Hansi Flick. Getty
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    Bayern Munich's Thomas Mueller and Stefan Thesker of Holstein Kiel challenge for the ball. AFP
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    Kiel's Fin Bartels celebrates with Jae-sung Lee after scoring their first goal. AP
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    Lee Jae-Song scores for Holstein Kiel only for the goal to be disallowed. Getty

No one laughing at Bayern as Hansi Flick's treble winners go from bad to worse


Ian Hawkey
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Thomas Muller is rarely short of words. That makes Bayern Munich’s dressing-room chatterbox a useful asset when there are awkward media duties to negotiate. Jobs like explaining his club’s worst Pokal Cup exit in 20 years.

Bayern had just lost on penalties at second-division Holstein Kiel. Snow was blowing across the pitch, the head coach was gloomily contemplating the broken dream of repeating last season’s historic treble, and, shivering against the cold, Muller was filling air-time for the broadcaster ARD. He described a “ping-pong” match, in which Bayern had twice thrown away a lead in the 90 minutes. He highlighted “bad luck”.

And then he paused, fixing his interviewer, Valeska Homburg, with a steely gaze, and said: “You’re laughing now.”

Homburg started to explain she was not smirking at the misfortune of Bayern, the reigning European champions. “Of course you’re laughing,” insisted Muller. He has been around long enough to know that even if Homburg was not amused, many viewers would be at an underdog shock that had floored the all-conquering, swaggering super-heavyweights of German club football.

The suspense, the possibility of an unlikely giant-killing, had been building through a riveting two-and-a-half hours. Kiel had twice equalised in normal time, and scored their second goal in the 95th minute. They held out at 2-2 through extra-time. The penalty roulette then went into sudden death until Bayern substitute Marc Roca, taking the 12th spot-kick of the shoot-out, saw his effort saved. Kiel’s Fin Bartels, scorer of the first equaliser during normal time, converted his penalty to complete the upstart club’s perfect record in the shoot-out, six out of six, against Manuel Neuer.

Neuer was one of five World Cup winners on show for Bayern through the evening. Head coach Hansi Flick had chosen to rest only a few of his strongest XI and, although Robert Lewandowski started on the bench, Bayern’s leading scorer was called into action for extra-time, a frustrating, goalless half-hour for the serial Bundesliga champions.

It has been a frustrating week. Last Friday, Bayern conceded another lead, from 2-0 up at Borussia Monchengladbach, and it cost them three points, Monchengladbach responding with the 22nd, 23rd and 24th goals Neuer has conceded so far in the Bundesliga this season.

That’s in 15 matches. The champions are currently owners of the ninth-best defensive record in Germany’s top division.

“There’s a pattern at the moment,” Flick noted. “We are seeing far too many goals scored against us. We have spoken about it a lot. We have to make the centre of the defence and the middle of the pitch more secure.”

In that area, there are distractions, not least the continuing uncertainty of David Alaba's future. The Austrian, whose masterly conversion from left-back to centre-back was key to Bayern's high pressing and slick build-up from the back during last season's march to the treble of Champions League, Bundesliga and Cup, has stalled on a new contract. Alaba's representatives are actively exploring possible moves from the 28-year-old once his current deal expires in June.

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Potential David Alaba destinations

  • REAL MADRID: According to reports in the Italian press on Sunday, Alaba’s agent Pini Zahavi – who rejected Bayern’s initial proposal – has offered his client to the Spanish champions. Should Real Madrid be interested, Alaba would provide an upgrade at left-back on Ferland Mendy, with 32-year-old Marcelo likely to make way. He would also offer another option in central defence alongside Rapahel Varane and Sergio Ramos. Getty Images
    REAL MADRID: According to reports in the Italian press on Sunday, Alaba’s agent Pini Zahavi – who rejected Bayern’s initial proposal – has offered his client to the Spanish champions. Should Real Madrid be interested, Alaba would provide an upgrade at left-back on Ferland Mendy, with 32-year-old Marcelo likely to make way. He would also offer another option in central defence alongside Rapahel Varane and Sergio Ramos. Getty Images
  • BARCELONA: Barcelona have made no secret of their financial struggles, so the chance to sign a top-class, experienced defender on a free transfer should see them in the running. Were Alaba to join Barcelona, expect him to be deployed primarily in central defence alongside, or possibly as a replacement for, Gerard Pique. His arrival would undoubtedly spell the end for Samuel Umtiti’s time at Camp Nou. He would also offer another option at left-back, and while he would be an upgrade on both Jordi Alba and the promising Junior Firpo, his services are probably required more in the middle. Getty Images
    BARCELONA: Barcelona have made no secret of their financial struggles, so the chance to sign a top-class, experienced defender on a free transfer should see them in the running. Were Alaba to join Barcelona, expect him to be deployed primarily in central defence alongside, or possibly as a replacement for, Gerard Pique. His arrival would undoubtedly spell the end for Samuel Umtiti’s time at Camp Nou. He would also offer another option at left-back, and while he would be an upgrade on both Jordi Alba and the promising Junior Firpo, his services are probably required more in the middle. Getty Images
  • JUVENTUS: The Italian champions have also been credited with an interest in Alba. A club that possesses a fine record of signing top talent on free transfers, Juventus would be able to freshen up their backline if Alaba joined. The 36-year-old captain Giorgio Chiellini is likely in his final season, while stalwart defensive partner Leonardo Bonucci will be 34 this season. Alaba could also act as a bargain replacement at left-back for Alex Sandro if the perpetually in-demand Brazilian is sold next summer. Reuters
    JUVENTUS: The Italian champions have also been credited with an interest in Alba. A club that possesses a fine record of signing top talent on free transfers, Juventus would be able to freshen up their backline if Alaba joined. The 36-year-old captain Giorgio Chiellini is likely in his final season, while stalwart defensive partner Leonardo Bonucci will be 34 this season. Alaba could also act as a bargain replacement at left-back for Alex Sandro if the perpetually in-demand Brazilian is sold next summer. Reuters
  • INTER MILAN: Last season’s Europa League finalists are reported to be rivalling Real Madrid and Juventus for Alaba. Antonio Conte has been well supported in his efforts to transform Inter Milan back into title contenders but a quick scan through his defensive options immediately reveals how much Alaba would strengthen his ranks. Centre-back or left-back, the Austrian would be a significant upgrade on Inter’s current options. EPA
    INTER MILAN: Last season’s Europa League finalists are reported to be rivalling Real Madrid and Juventus for Alaba. Antonio Conte has been well supported in his efforts to transform Inter Milan back into title contenders but a quick scan through his defensive options immediately reveals how much Alaba would strengthen his ranks. Centre-back or left-back, the Austrian would be a significant upgrade on Inter’s current options. EPA
  • MANCHESTER CITY: Pep Guardiola has spent a fortune on defenders during his time at the Etihad, yet few would be surprised if he urged City to get involved in the bidding for Alaba. The Austrian was a mainstay under Guardiola during his three years at Bayern and his versatility would fit the City manager’s fluid approach to formations. That said, Alaba would also be an upgrade in the regular left-back position, with Benjamin Mendy struggling to find his best since a succession of injuries and right-back Joao Cancelo deployed out of position. Reuters
    MANCHESTER CITY: Pep Guardiola has spent a fortune on defenders during his time at the Etihad, yet few would be surprised if he urged City to get involved in the bidding for Alaba. The Austrian was a mainstay under Guardiola during his three years at Bayern and his versatility would fit the City manager’s fluid approach to formations. That said, Alaba would also be an upgrade in the regular left-back position, with Benjamin Mendy struggling to find his best since a succession of injuries and right-back Joao Cancelo deployed out of position. Reuters
  • MANCHESTER UNITED: Manchester United’s defensive troubles have been well documented and there would be no question that Alaba would provide an injection of much-needed quality to the Premier League side. Summer signing Alex Telles has been recruited to help solve the left-back problem, so if United were to make an approach for Alaba, it would be likely with the thought of deploying the Austrian in central defence. AP
    MANCHESTER UNITED: Manchester United’s defensive troubles have been well documented and there would be no question that Alaba would provide an injection of much-needed quality to the Premier League side. Summer signing Alex Telles has been recruited to help solve the left-back problem, so if United were to make an approach for Alaba, it would be likely with the thought of deploying the Austrian in central defence. AP

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His form has faltered, but Alaba is not alone for that. The central defensive pairing that Flick watched allowing Bartels to chase a long ball and score Kiel's first equaliser were Niklas Sule, the Germany international, and Lucas Hernandez, the French world champion. The verdict on both from Germany's leading newspaper was brutal. Bild-Zeiting gave Sule a mark of 6. That's on a scale that runs from 1 (outstanding) to 5 (very poor indeed). Hernandez? He escaped with a mark of 5.

No Bayern player will have enjoyed reading Bild, or being a part of history. The last time the club failed to make it to the last 32 of the German Cup was in the 2000/01 season; the last time they were knocked out by lower-division opposition was back in 2004.

“You can imagine what the mood is like,” said Muller, having made his peace with the reporter from ARD, and turning his mind to the Bundesliga confrontation with in-form Freiburg - they have five wins on the trot - on Sunday, by which time RB Leizpig could have leapfrogged Bayern to top place in a division picking up the scent of a genuine title race. Leipzig trail the champions by two points, Bayer Leverkusen by four, and Dortmund, in fourth, are five points shy of Bayern.

Flick finds himself in uncharted territory. He guided Bayern through a run of 32 matches unbeaten in the stunning, treble-winning season of his appointment, and the last time he lost two on the trot was just after he had started. Bayern’s rivals are curious to see how he responds to his worst week yet.