House minority leader Kevin McCarthy. AP
House minority leader Kevin McCarthy. AP
House minority leader Kevin McCarthy. AP
House minority leader Kevin McCarthy. AP

Republican Kevin McCarthy called for Trump to resign, audio clip shows


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Congressman Kevin McCarthy, the top Republican in the US House of Representatives, has come under fire from some of his fellow party members after an audio recording showed him saying that then-president Donald Trump should resign over the January 6 Capitol insurrection.

The comments, which Mr McCarthy had denied hours before the recording emerged, could undermine his widely known ambition to become House Speaker next year if Republicans take control of the chamber in November's midterm elections.

But as criticism of the House minority leader mounted on Twitter, the Washington Post reported that he and Mr Trump had spoken by phone and that the Republican former president was not upset about the congressman's remarks, which could greatly mute the rank-and-file reaction among Trump supporters.

The audio, recorded days after Trump supporters stormed the Capitol and delayed certification of Democrat Joe Biden's 2020 presidential election victory, depicts a conversation between Mr McCarthy and Congresswoman Liz Cheney, who was ousted from party leadership weeks later over her opposition to Mr Trump.

Mr McCarthy told Ms Cheney he planned to call Mr Trump to discuss a mechanism for invoking the 25th Amendment, under which then-vice president Mike Pence and members of the Cabinet could have removed the Republican president from office.

“The only discussion I would have with him is that I think this will pass, and it would be my recommendation you should resign,” Mr McCarthy says in the recording, released on cable news channel MSNBC late on Thursday.

Mr McCarthy's office did not respond to a request for comment on Friday.

The first reference to his comments appeared earlier on Thursday in a New York Times article published as part of a forthcoming book by two reporters from the newspaper.

The Times also reported that Mr McCarthy told other Republican leaders he wished big tech companies would strip social media accounts from party lawmakers who supported Trump's false claims of a rigged 2020 election.

Mr McCarthy initially denied the Times account in a statement that called the reporting “totally false and wrong".

US Representative Adam Kinzinger, one of the few Republican politicians openly critical of Mr Trump, blasted Mr McCarthy on Twitter on Thursday night.

“Question for Kevin McCarthy … how can you honestly feel OK with the lies? Yes, other people lie too, but you have claimed to fight for a higher purpose,” Mr Kinzinger asked. “Honestly Kevin, is it worth it?”

Another attack on Mr McCarthy came on Friday from Republican Representative Matt Gaetz, a staunch Trump ally and hard-line conservative who has actively opposed Ms Cheney — who is running for re-election in Wyoming — for supporting Mr Trump's 2021 impeachment and joining the Democratic-led House committee investigating the January 6 riot.

“While I was rallying in Wyoming against Liz Cheney … Kevin McCarthy was defending Liz Cheney among House Republicans … you should have trusted my instincts, not your own,” Mr Gaetz said in a tweet.

Mr McCarthy, who has also faced criticism from other hard-line conservatives within his caucus, publicly zigzagged on Mr Trump's culpability for the January 6 riot by first saying the former president bore some responsibility for the violence — but finally visited Mr Trump at his Mar-a-Lago resort home in Florida and posed for a photograph with him.

Mr McCarthy's fate will depend largely on Mr Trump, who remains the most powerful figure in the Republican Party more than a year after he left office.

The Post cited two unnamed sources as saying that Mr McCarthy and Mr Trump spoke on Thursday night and that the former president was glad the Republican leader did not follow through with his plan to ask him to resign, seeing it as a sign of his continued grip on the Republican Party.

  • Donald Trump, the president at the time, speaks during a rally protesting the electoral college certification of Joe Biden as president in Washington on January 6, 2021. AP
    Donald Trump, the president at the time, speaks during a rally protesting the electoral college certification of Joe Biden as president in Washington on January 6, 2021. AP
  • A mob loyal to Mr Trump tries to break through a police barrier at the Capitol. AP
    A mob loyal to Mr Trump tries to break through a police barrier at the Capitol. AP
  • The mob waves pro-Trump flags in front of the Capitol building. AP
    The mob waves pro-Trump flags in front of the Capitol building. AP
  • Riot police push back a crowd of rioters at the Capitol building. AFP
    Riot police push back a crowd of rioters at the Capitol building. AFP
  • Trump supporters clash with police and security forces as people try to storm the US Capitol building. AFP
    Trump supporters clash with police and security forces as people try to storm the US Capitol building. AFP
  • Insurrectionists loyal to Mr Trump try to open a door of the US Capitol building as they riot in Washington. AP
    Insurrectionists loyal to Mr Trump try to open a door of the US Capitol building as they riot in Washington. AP
  • US Capitol Police push back rioters trying to enter the US Capitol. AP
    US Capitol Police push back rioters trying to enter the US Capitol. AP
  • Police and rioters confront each other in the Rotunda of the Capitol. US Capitol Police via AP
    Police and rioters confront each other in the Rotunda of the Capitol. US Capitol Police via AP
  • Smoke fills the hallway outside the Senate chamber of the Capitol. AP
    Smoke fills the hallway outside the Senate chamber of the Capitol. AP
  • Insurrectionists loyal to Mr Trump breach the Capitol in Washington. AP
    Insurrectionists loyal to Mr Trump breach the Capitol in Washington. AP
  • Trump supporters, including Doug Jensen, centre, confront US Capitol Police in the hallway outside the Senate chamber at the Capitol. AP
    Trump supporters, including Doug Jensen, centre, confront US Capitol Police in the hallway outside the Senate chamber at the Capitol. AP
  • Newly installed razor wire tops the fence surrounding the US Capitol following the January 6 riot. Reuters
    Newly installed razor wire tops the fence surrounding the US Capitol following the January 6 riot. Reuters
  • Security agents and members of Congress barricade the door to the House chamber as the violent mob breaches the Capitol. AP
    Security agents and members of Congress barricade the door to the House chamber as the violent mob breaches the Capitol. AP
  • Rioter Jacob Chansley holds a sign referencing QAnon as supporters of Mr Trump gather to protest the early results of the 2020 presidential election. Reuters
    Rioter Jacob Chansley holds a sign referencing QAnon as supporters of Mr Trump gather to protest the early results of the 2020 presidential election. Reuters

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Richard Flanagan
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Updated: November 16, 2022, 11:21 AM