Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas addresses the UN General Assembly. Are such meetings nothing more than talking shops? Photo: Emmanuel Dunand / AFP
Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas addresses the UN General Assembly. Are such meetings nothing more than talking shops? Photo: Emmanuel Dunand / AFP
Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas addresses the UN General Assembly. Are such meetings nothing more than talking shops? Photo: Emmanuel Dunand / AFP
Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas addresses the UN General Assembly. Are such meetings nothing more than talking shops? Photo: Emmanuel Dunand / AFP

It’s far better to ‘talk shop’ than to walk into war


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At the beginning of June, Pope Francis hosted an extraordinary event at his home in the Vatican, at which the Palestinian Authority’s president Mahmoud Abbas and Israel’s then president, Shimon Peres, prayed together for peace. Last week Mr Peres, now retired, attempted to build on that by presenting the Pope with his plan to set up “a sort of United Nations for religions”. This was needed, he said, because “people who shoot the most these days, nearly always say they are doing it in God’s name. What is needed is an unquestionable moral authority that says in a strong voice ‘No, God does not want this and does not permit it.’”

Whatever comes of Mr Peres’s idea – and while the Pope listened carefully, his spokesman emphasised that he “did not make a personal commitment” – there will be those who will dismiss such an imaginative and potentially valuable interfaith initiative from the start. Peres’s UN of religions, they will say, would be nothing more than a “talking shop”.

This term is frequently used disparagingly about a variety of other groups, like the Commonwealth, the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM), the UN Alliance of Civilisations, and the UN itself, as its secretary general, Ban Ki-Moon, has acknowledged.

“Detractors,” he once wrote, “often call the United Nations a ‘talking shop’ of 192 nations where, it has memorably been said, ‘no issue is too small to be debated endlessly.’ ”

Well, I say, let’s hear it for talking shops. For a start, the contempt that informs the term ignores the fact that there is a virtue in the participants conversing in the first place. You are at least slightly less likely to launch an attack against someone with whom you have just been socialising and discussing than someone with whom you have never had any personal contact. Talks, behind the scenes or in the open, have paved the way for the resolution of innumerable conflicts around the world. They may have been protracted and sometimes unsuccessful (most obviously in the case of Palestine and Israel), but the effort is always worth making, as Winston Churchill famously noted. “To jaw-jaw,” he said, “is always better than to war-war.”

The benefits that can come from personal interaction are not always formally quantifiable. Who could have known that during deadlocks in the Northern Ireland peace process, the trick that would dissolve tensions was the province’s British secretary of state, Mo Mowlam, taking off her wig? (This resulted in quite a sight: she had lost nearly all her hair during cancer treatment, and only a couple of stray tufts survived.)

As the economist Jeffrey Sachs explains in his book, To Move the World: JFK’s Quest for Peace, it was John F Kennedy and Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev who defused the Cuban Missile Crisis themselves, against the advice of many of their more bellicose advisers, precisely because of the chemistry and understanding they had developed.

The pair had first met when Kennedy was still a senator, at a meeting in Washington that was not about action, that had no concrete purpose beyond making introductions and talking. The rapport that was to flow from exactly the kind of event supposedly useless “talking shops” sponsor, saved the world from nuclear destruction.

That is not to say that the recognition of what we have in common – and the belief in that is what undergirds most of the international groups in this category – always translates into obvious achievements. This is a fact that the last secretary-general of the OIC, Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, and his team pretty much acknowledged when I met them at the US-Islamic World Forum in Doha last year. It is not always easy to answer the question: what does the OIC or the UN Alliance of Civilisations actually do?

But maybe this is to miss the point. Imagine returning from an evening dinner with a friend, only to be asked what, beyond consuming, say, an iced tea and a shawarma, you had achieved. “Well, we talked,” one would almost certainly reply. If the follow up was then, “Yes, but what did you actually do?” one would have to assume that the interlocutor had no understanding of the nature of friendship. Talking was the purpose. If we can recognise the normality and worth of such shared time between individuals, and larger groups of individuals, why should we not think it highly sensible to try to extend such comity among nations – by meeting in the organisations derided as talking shops?

While rules and treaties can be forced on lesser powers by greater ones, lasting agreement rests on the free acceptance reached after a discussion of equals – as happens, quite remarkably when one considers the disparity between member states, at the UN.

These agreements may only be arrived at slowly and after much painstaking negotiation. But the talking that goes on at such organisations is the precondition, as Mr Ban has also argued: “Talking sometimes achieves something, too. It’s the talk that puts UN peacekeepers on the ground. It’s the talk that raises the money and mandates the programmes that feed so many of the world’s hungry. It’s the talk that marks the world’s first steps towards dealing with climate change, the global food crisis and a daily array of humanitarian crises.”

That’s something to remember the next time you hear the term “talking shop” airily bandied about. Just where, in fact, would we be without them?

Sholto Byrnes is a Doha-based commentator and consultant

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Girls full-contact rugby may be in its infancy in the Middle East, but there are already a number of role models for players to look up to.

Sophie Shams (Dubai Exiles mini, England sevens international)

An Emirati student who is blazing a trail in rugby. She first learnt the game at Dubai Exiles and captained her JESS Primary school team. After going to study geophysics at university in the UK, she scored a sensational try in a cup final at Twickenham. She has played for England sevens, and is now contracted to top Premiership club Saracens.

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Seren Gough-Walters (Sharjah Wanderers mini, Wales rugby league international)

Few players anywhere will have taken a more circuitous route to playing rugby on Sky Sports. Gough-Walters was born in Al Wasl Hospital in Dubai, raised in Sharjah, did not take up rugby seriously till she was 15, has a master’s in global governance and ethics, and once worked as an immigration officer at the British Embassy in Abu Dhabi. In the summer of 2021 she played for Wales against England in rugby league, in a match that was broadcast live on TV.

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Erin King (Dubai Hurricanes mini, Ireland sevens international)

Aged five, Australia-born King went to Dubai Hurricanes training at The Sevens with her brothers. She immediately struck up a deep affection for rugby. She returned to the city at the end of last year to play at the Dubai Rugby Sevens in the colours of Ireland in the Women’s World Series tournament on Pitch 1.

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2). Roberto Soldado - Valencia -  £25m: Flop

3). Erik Lamela - Roma -  £25m: Jury still out

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5). Darren Bent - Charlton Athletic -  £21m: Flop

6). Vincent Janssen - AZ Alkmaar -  £18m: Flop

7). David Bentley - Blackburn Rovers -  £18m: Flop

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6.30pm: Mazrat Al Ruwayah (PA) | Group 2 | US$55,000 (Dirt) | 1,600 metres

7.05pm: Meydan Sprint (TB) | Group 2 | $250,000 (Turf) | 1,000m

7.40pm: Firebreak Stakes | Group 3 | $200,000 (D) | 1,600m

8.15pm: Meydan Trophy | Conditions (TB) | $100,000 (T) | 1,900m

8.50pm: Balanchine | Group 2 (TB) | $250,000 (T) | 1,800m

9.25pm: Handicap (TB) | $135,000 (D) | 1,200m

10pm: Handicap (TB) | $175,000 (T) | 2,410m.

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  • 2:03:23: Wilson Kipsang (KEN) on 29/09/2013 in Berlin
  • 2:03:38: Patrick Makau (KEN) on 25/09/2011 in Berlin
  • 2:03:59: Haile Gebreselassie (ETH) on 28/09/2008 in Berlin
  • 2:04:26: Haile Gebreselassie (ETH) on 30/09/2007 in Berlin
  • 2:04:55: Paul Tergat (KEN) on 28/09/2003 in Berlin
  • 2:05:38: Khalid Khannouchi (USA) 14/04/2002 in London
  • 2:05:42: Khalid Khannouchi (USA) 24/10/1999 in Chicago
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Uefa Champions League semi-finals, first leg
Liverpool v Roma

When: April 24, 10.45pm kick-off (UAE)
Where: Anfield, Liverpool
Live: BeIN Sports HD
Second leg: May 2, Stadio Olimpico, Rome

MATCH INFO

Alaves 1 (Perez 65' pen)

Real Madrid 2 (Ramos 52', Carvajal 69')

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25 visual effects (VFX) studios

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1,000 VFX artists

3,000 technicians

10 Concept artists, 25 3D designers

New sound technology, named 4D SRL

 

Results

2pm: Handicap Dh 90,000 1,800m; Winner: Majestic Thunder, Tadhg O’Shea (jockey), Satish Seemar (trainer).

2.30pm: Handicap Dh120,000 1,950m; Winner: Just A Penny, Sam Hitchcott, Doug Watson.

3pm: Handicap Dh105,000 1,600m; Winner: Native Appeal, Pat Dobbs, Doug Watson.

3.30pm: Jebel Ali Classic Conditions Dh300,000 1,400m; Winner: Thegreatcollection, Adrie de Vries, Doug Watson.

4pm: Maiden Dh75,000 1,600m; Winner: Oktalgano, Xavier Ziani, Salem bin Ghadayer.

4.30pm: Conditions Dh250,000 1,400m; Winner: Madame Ellingtina, Richard Mullen, Satish Seemar.

5pm: Maiden Dh75,000 1,600m; Winner: Mystery Land, Fabrice Veron, Helal Al Alawi.

5.30pm: Handicap Dh85,000 1,000m; Winner: Shanaghai City, Jesus Rosales, Rashed Bouresly.

Third Test

Result: India won by 203 runs

Series: England lead five-match series 2-1

UAE jiu-jitsu squad

Men: Hamad Nawad and Khalid Al Balushi (56kg), Omar Al Fadhli and Saeed Al Mazroui (62kg), Taleb Al Kirbi and Humaid Al Kaabi (69kg), Mohammed Al Qubaisi and Saud Al Hammadi (70kg), Khalfan Belhol and Mohammad Haitham Radhi (85kg), Faisal Al Ketbi and Zayed Al Kaabi (94kg)

Women: Wadima Al Yafei and Mahra Al Hanaei (49kg), Bashayer Al Matrooshi and Hessa Al Shamsi (62kg)

FIGHT CARD

Sara El Bakkali v Anisha Kadka (Lightweight, female)
Mohammed Adil Al Debi v Moaz Abdelgawad (Bantamweight)
Amir Boureslan v Mahmoud Zanouny (Welterweight)
Abrorbek Madaminbekov v Mohammed Al Katheeri (Featherweight)
Ibrahem Bilal v Emad Arafa (Super featherweight)
Ahmed Abdolaziz v Imad Essassi (Middleweight)
Milena Martinou v Ilham Bourakkadi (Bantamweight, female)
Noureddine El Agouti v Mohamed Mardi (Welterweight)
Nabil Ouach v Ymad Atrous (Middleweight)
Nouredin Samir v Zainalabid Dadachev (Lightweight)
Marlon Ribeiro v Mehdi Oubahammou (Welterweight)
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Company Profile

Company name: Yeepeey

Started: Soft launch in November, 2020

Founders: Sagar Chandiramani, Jatin Sharma and Monish Chandiramani

Based: Dubai

Industry: E-grocery

Initial investment: $150,000

Future plan: Raise $1.5m and enter Saudi Arabia next year

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Cyber crime - This includes fraud, impersonation, scams and deepfake technology, tactics that are increasingly targeting infrastructure and exploiting human vulnerabilities.
Cyber terrorism - Social media platforms are used to spread radical ideologies, misinformation and disinformation, often with the aim of disrupting critical infrastructure such as power grids.
Cyber warfare - Shaped by geopolitical tension, hostile actors seek to infiltrate and compromise national infrastructure, using one country’s systems as a springboard to launch attacks on others.

Libya's Gold

UN Panel of Experts found regime secretly sold a fifth of the country's gold reserves. 

The panel’s 2017 report followed a trail to West Africa where large sums of cash and gold were hidden by Abdullah Al Senussi, Qaddafi’s former intelligence chief, in 2011.

Cases filled with cash that was said to amount to $560m in 100 dollar notes, that was kept by a group of Libyans in Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso.

A second stash was said to have been held in Accra, Ghana, inside boxes at the local offices of an international human rights organisation based in France.

Match info

Uefa Champions League Group H

Juventus v Valencia, Tuesday, midnight (UAE)