Lorna Tucker on Vivienne Westwood: 'She is the most reluctant protagonist that I’ve ever worked with'

‘I thought we had a friendship but … I think she’s being stupid as the film is the ultimate portrait,’ says the director

Vivienne Westwood then and now: the fashion designer who pioneered the punk look is as much of a diva now as she was in 1977. Rex / Lush

British director Lorna Tucker lets us know from the start of Westwood: Punk, Icon, Activist just how much of a challenge she faced making a film about the British fashion legend.

Yes, she may have been granted permission to shadow Vivienne Westwood over a number of years, but in the first scene of her contested movie about the renowned designer, Westwood admonishes Tucker, saying to the camera that she doesn’t really want to, or even like talking about her past.

Tucker's film is a constant battle to get the British dame to open up about former lover Malcolm McLaren, former manager of the Sex Pistols and co-owner with Westwood on their London boutique Let it Rock.

The inspiration behind it

The shop later took on different monikers. Anecdotes on Johnny Rotten – the Sex Pistols’ lead singer and a frequent customer of hers and McLaren’s infamous boutique – and her own explosion into the public consciousness while dressing famous punk group the Pistols, are also less than forthcoming. “She is the most reluctant protagonist I’ve ever worked with, or will probably ever work with,” says Tucker. “I really wanted to get that across in the movie – that irreverence whereby she really doesn’t care if a film is made about her.”

She is the most reluctant protagonist I've ever worked with, or will probably ever work with. I really wanted to get that across in the movie – that irreverence whereby she really doesn't care if a film is made about her.

But Tucker has her own, more personal, reason for wanting to make a movie about Westwood. It came after a tumultuous period in her own life. The director and former model ran away from home at 15 and ended up living on the streets, where she became addicted to drugs. One day, when she was begging outside Charing Cross Tube Station in London, she was scouted by a modelling agency.

But instead of taking up a job, Tucker tried to take her own life and ended up in rehab. Upon release, she went into modelling. It was during this period of relative stability that she first met Westwood. "She is quite an inspiring person and a stubborn person, and that automatically made me want to make a film on her," says Tucker.

Westwood was reluctant, but wanted an instrument to speak about climate change. "Her only drive to make the film at that point in her life was as a vehicle to get her message across about the environment," Tucker says.

Breaking down the film

The film is divided into three parts, juxtaposing three periods of Westwood's life: as a "punk", "icon" and "activist". The punk narrative deals with the early life of the designer, born Vivienne Isabel Swire, in Cheshire, the daughter of a storekeeper in an aircraft factory. She became a teacher and created her own jewellery, which she sold from a stall on London's Portobello Road.

In 1962, aged 21, she married a vacuum-cleaner factory apprentice, Derek Westwood, whose name she kept even after they divorced, following her dalliance with McClaren. Together, McClaren and Westwood helped define the look of the punk movement from their famous King's Road boutique. 

As her relationship with McClaren came to an end, Westwood left the punk scene behind. In the film, Westwood says she came to the conclusion that: "We were not attacking the establishment, we were part of the distraction."

The "icon" section of the movie begins with Westwood at her lowest point, a figure of mockery for the media, which doesn't take her seriously, seeing her as frivolous and out of touch. She turns this view on its head to become the doyenne of the fashion world.

Vivienne Westwood at work in her studio in ‘Westwood: Punk, Icon, Activist’. Courtesy of Greenwich Entertainment

In her later years, the 77-year-old fashion designer turned her attention to shining a light on climate change. She's commonly seen at charity events or participating in marches.

"The film took four years to make, but we weren't filming every day," says Tucker, who surveyed many of Westwood's relatives and past business partners for the film. She interviewed Westwood's second husband and collaborator, Andreas Kronthaler, gathered anecdotes from Joseph Corre, her son with McClaren, and got a rundown of her work from long-term business partner Carlo D'Amario. 

“It took some time to get the trust of not just Westwood and her partner Andreas, but also that of her team.”

'The film is the ultimate portrait'

There's a reason the film doesn't centre around the clothes. Tucker says: "I didn't want to make a fashion film – I wanted to get that sense of family and what drives them. The way you can do that is by being around so much, they forget you are even there, and that is when the magic happens."

Vivienne Westwood withher husband Andreas Kronthaler. EPA

Unfortunately, Westwood didn't share Tucker's sentiment. After the film premiered at the Sundance Film Festival last year, Westwood came out railing against the biopic, taking to Twitter to say that Tucker did not focus on her work as an activist as she had promised to. A statement from Westwood ended by saying, "It's a shame because the film is mediocre, and Vivienne and Andreas are not."

Unfortunately for Westwood, the critics and public didn’t agree, and Tucker’s documentary film has come to be appreciated as an invaluable insight into the fashion designer.

If I wanted to make an exposé I would have made a completely different film and that is not the film that I wanted to make.

For Tucker, Westwood's decision to have no more to do with her is ­bittersweet. "When I got back from Sundance I thought I would be asked to sit down and have a cup of tea and do something civilised," says Tucker. "But I was told by the brand that unless I made the changes she wanted, she won't have anything to do with me or the film. It sucked because I thought we had a friendship, but it doesn't suck because I think she's being stupid as the film is the ultimate portrait.

“If I wanted to make an exposé I would have made a completely different film and that is not the film that I wanted to make. Knowing her and having witnessed her, this film is 100 per cent honest and authentic,” she adds. “I made the film because she inspired me and I thought her story could inspire people who want to be artists; who can’t afford to go to art school or fashion school and they don’t know where to go. And if you stick to what you believe in and you are good at what you do, then there’s always a place out there.”

Moving onto new projects 

But Tucker has already moved on. She has just started festival screenings of her new documentary, Ama, a harrowing tale of how native American women have been sterilised against their will by the United States government.

"This is a story that needs to be told and it was a very different process to Westwood. I didn't know anything about the culture, I'm really ignorant in an innocent way and I needed to be guided."

Director Lorna Tucker. AP

Ama revolves around the powerful testimony of 67-year-old ­Navajo-Indian Jean Whitehorse about how she was sterilised against her will. In this movie, Tucker was happy to let her subjects take the lead and call the shots to highlight this appalling abuse of power.

“What I wanted to do, was say how can I serve you, then I can try and get this taken to the world so that we can talk about this.”

And talking about the issues that matter is what Tucker is best at, no matter if Westwood would swear different.

Westwood: Punk, Icon, Activist is showing at Cinema Akil, Alserkal Avenue, Dubai, from February 8 until 15

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